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Post by vibrant on Aug 16, 2023 23:28:46 GMT
I have an external monitor for display for lyric app. Using iOS and OnSong 2020, can't get the external monitor to display in portrait despite a drop down dialog box for this in Onsong. Our singer has an Android tablet and Onsong is iOS only, so looking to try some other app like Liveprompter with Android tablet if it can rotate the display to portrait on an external monitor. I see from other threads it displays on other monitors, I haven't found any comments regarding portrait display. Thank you.
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Post by Torsten on Aug 16, 2023 23:56:23 GMT
Hi there,
not sure if I can help you here. Generally, display on external displays is a system function on Android devices. Typically, this will "mirror" the screen of your device on the external monitor. I am not sure if Android is capable of handling external monitors in portrait orientation - the stuff I've read online makes me doubt that.
So the ability to display in portrait mode on external devices is not a question of LivePrompter, rather one of the operating system - you may be out of luck if you want to use Android devices.
With Windows devices, this shouldn't be a problem - as a desktop operating system, Windows can deal with external screen orientation nicely. There is also a Windows version of LivePrompter - maybe using a smaller Windows tablet like the Surface Go could be an option.
Cheers,
Torsten
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Post by Torsten on Aug 17, 2023 0:13:54 GMT
Quick update on this: I came across this YouTube vid of someone connecting their phone to a USB-C monitor and actually managing to display in Portrait mode. It seems to depend on the capabilities of the specific monitor - if it actually reports its resolution according to its orientation, Android seems to be able to adjust its output - interesting. youtu.be/SN6HfKfmqNcBut of course this requires the monitor to be able to react to its orientation and tell Android about it, so you can't simply use any cheap monitor and turn it by 90 degrees... You'll probably have to experiment with different USB-C monitors until you find one that cooperates with Android in portrait mode
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Post by vibrant on Aug 17, 2023 2:45:28 GMT
Thx for quick response. IOS and OnSong get it done onky because OnSong adds that tweak within the app. Otherwise, iOS can’t do it. That’s why I’m wondering if your app does, because pretty sure android doesn’t. And yes, I’ve got a cheap monitor. TV actually, mounted in a floor monitor box
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Post by Torsten on Aug 17, 2023 9:14:39 GMT
OK, understood.
To be brutally honest: I don't think such a "tweak" will ever be realized in LivePrompter. I'm not even sure if the underlying Flutter framework I am using is capable of "simulating portrait" when Android is set to landscape.
The question is what exactly are you trying to achieve? Is it just a single floor monitor type solution that your singer wants to use? Then I'd get a simple and cheap "mini pc" with Windows and run the Windows version of LivePrompter. Control it with a simple USB foot pedal and you're done.
Alternative scenario: your singer is using their tablet for themselves, but you want to display the lyrics to the audience or other musicians: use a separate Windows device for the audience, and remote-control it via WiFi from the singer's tablet using the "LivePrompter connect" function.
To facilitate this kind of "slave device" model, I'm thinking about building a Raspberry Pi version of LivePrompter. That would give you a very cheap device that you simply slap onto any cheap monitor and make that a LivePrompter device to either control with a couple of pedals or "slaved" to a master device.
But that is another major undertaking for me - won't happen before 2024...
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